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Can Fl. Gov. Rick Scott take away minimum wage? He is chopping Protection for the Elderly Now. What's Next? WAKE-UP! We are now gut-less wanderers w/no place to stand.

Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:57 AM EST
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Talk is that the new governor, a tea-party lover and a near billionaire in his own right of taking money from the system now wants to finish taking the residents in Florida to a new LOW! By reducing the minimum wage, a worker if he has a job, will surely not be able to consider working less than 60 hr. weeks, if possible. Day care programs for the poor will be cut. Programs for feeding the elderly poor will be cut. Medical care, etc. will be cut.

Taxes for corporations will be cut. Property taxes will be cut. Sales taxes will be lowered.

The pluses are that the corporations moving into Florida, will not have to pay any kind of a livable wage to employees. There will be no guarantee of employment, as firing is at the whim of the employer without cause. Employers under Scott's program will not be burdened once they fire an employee with having to pay unemployment wages.

The Ombudsman program in Florida is in jeopardy as Scott and his henchmen start eliminating programs. If, a senior has a complaint against the facility for abuse, etc. they will have no protection in being able to call for help. A family member will be limited as to who they can rely on when they find their parent lying in a bed with fecus all over their body. A family member upon seeing that the food served is cold and of sub-standard quality, will have no recourse in being able to protect their Mother...their Father...their spouse.

I sat at dining tables day after day in several facilities. I watched the old people close their eyes and not even attempt to eat the food. I watched the food being served where it had not been cut into eatable pieces for some of those people. I saw women grabbing at the plate of the person next to them because they no longer realized what they were doing. I watched the staff stand in the middle-of-the-room totally oblivious and uncaring of what was occuring around them.

I went to the serving counter and pulled off plates of food for residents, while I was visiting. I asked for sandwiches and milk for those people that could not bear to eat the dinner. I took snacks in for my relative, to ensure that there was always food in the room for her. I brought in food from a restaurant many times, very much to the delight of my relative.

I saw my relative lying in a bed without any clothing on their body during the night. I did not yell.....as I surely wanted to do ....but, I did make it quite clear that at all times, someone was to dress my relative and also make sure that all times, she was checked and cleaned as necessary. That was in a supposedly NICE church-owned facility....what happens in the facilities....of so called sub-standard facilities?

They smell like urine when you walk into the building. The rooms are cold. The patients sit in wheelchairs staring out windows and hoping someone will touch their arm with kind words.

I plead with people that I meet now to avoid ever going into a elder-care facility. I would rather die at home...or take myself to a tree and linger till the body stopped breathing. The lack of care in facilities is increasing as staff is eliminated because of budget cuts.

Big business is buying those elder-care facilities...and investing millions of dollars from investment bankers like Arcapita of Bahrain. CNL Lifestyles used money from Arcapita to buy into facilities with the help of Sunrise Senior Living. CNL owns marinas, golf courses, theme parks, ski resorts and senior care facilities. The care of the aged is now an investment package sold on Wall Street or the Middle East.

There are groups from India that own facilities along with department stores in America. There is no situation of a local company owning a facility or two in the town nearby. There is no one to complain to when the care at the facility is cut back, because corporate wants more return on the investment. Lives are not important...for once Mom and Dad pass....there will always be more bodies at the door waiting to be shipped in by the doctors at the hospital.

Rick Scott has his taste of blood and he will bite anything that he can get his teeth into...and shake it till there is no life left.

Words of ADVISE.....forget Florida....for a long time....for if Scott does not get recalled ---as he should be----then the state will be less than a penny on the dollar in the book of value.

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SuckerFish

The new governor in Florida is proving to be a maniac.

  • 15 votes
Reply#1 - Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:59 AM EST
FlNutmegger

Ain't no place like home! Lost my only sister last year to Alzheimer’s and where she was, while advertised as one of the best, and her husband, my brother in law, was there every other day for nearly 5 years, watching over her, it was a hell hole! At my advanced age, and as I close in on the end of this adventure, my greatest fear now is of hospitals, and nursing homes, and my greatest prayer is that I be allowed to simply drop dead! End of life conditions should never be like this except for the profit motives which drive our entire medical system at the expense of and on the bodies of our seniors!

  • 9 votes
#1.1 - Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:04 PM EST
worldcurmudgeon

If he citizens of Wisconsin want to make changes, impeach every Republican in office from dog catcher to governor and elect citizens with no real party who will undo everything they have done, put back the taxes that were reduced for the wealthy corporate.

  • 5 votes
#1.2 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:38 AM EST
Steve the Social Experiment

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Recall-Rick-Scott/171429109550308?sk=wall&filter=1

Recall Rick Scott

  • 4 votes
#1.3 - Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:35 PM EST
Brandon-801865

I bet the Boomers and the Elderly wished they hadn't voted Party of No, against their own interests for the last 30 years.

How long will it take for the Boomers and the Elderly to educate themselves...seriously?

I was 10 when Reagan was elected, and I knew he was trouble for democracy and the Middle Class from the start.

  • 6 votes
#1.4 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:13 PM EDT
jeffcisme

@ worldcurmudgeon: what does this article have to do with Wisconsin?

  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:59 PM EDT
LoneProgressive

jeffcisme

@ worldcurmudgeon: what does this article have to do with Wisconsin?

Don't feel bad worldcurmudgeon.

Gov. Rick Scott / Gov. Scott Walker - Who can tell these two power hungry Republicans apart? Not only are their names similar, but so are their attacks on the Middle Class.

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:08 PM EDT
58rose

you all keep forgetting the guy in Michigan gov.snyder he is just as big a-hole.

  • 3 votes
#1.7 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:32 PM EDT
Pavilion

I'm from WI - we have the same problems. I saw a poster down at the protests on the square that said something like, "This is WI on the Tea Party Express". Also another sign said something like, "Just wait, the Tea Party is coming to your state next".

This is a national problem, it may be bubbling up from state level. But billionaire/Millionaire corporations and individuals have been buying our politicians for a very long time now. The only difference now, is that America is finally waking up and realizing what their Democracy will look like if it continues.

And this is exactly why the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest amongst need to be rescinded. For thirty years the rich and powerful have been selling our Democracy to the highest bidder. And, the only thing that will slow it down is when there is an uprising of the People themselves. That's it.... nothing else. The politicians who do understand what is at stake can't slow it down, they don't have the power. The power rests in the hands of the people and we are going to have to stop the sale of our Democracy from the bottom up.

Luckily... the movement has already started in WI, OH, IN, MI and other states...the people are just simply fed up with it all. We're all fed up with "shared sacrifice" meaning the wealthy get tax cuts, tax breaks and tax loopholes and the rest of us get the shaft...We discusss it on thread after thread here at Newsvine... nothing changes...So... I started an online petition:

It's description follows....

Ask the Ed Schultz Show, National AFL-CIO and Teamsters unions to get involved and organize a protest on Capitol Hill demanding the rescission of Bush Era tax cuts for the wealthiest people in this country.

The extremists on Capitol Hill are demanding billions and billions of cuts in social programs. Once again, they are asking the elderly, the disabled, and average Americans to take the hit, under the guise of "shared sacrifice". And they are doing this AFTER holding middle class tax cuts hostage and demanding that the Bush Era tax cuts for the wealthiest amongst us be extended. It's time to demand an end to tax cuts for the wealthiest amongst us, it's time to demand an end to corporate loopholes. It's time to demand that shared sacrifice include the wealthy as well.

Seriously.... we come here to Newsvine day in and day out... we post articles and rant and rave. It is high past time to act. I live in WI...if we can get 100,000 people on the lawn of Madison's Capitol, then we can get a million on the lawn of Capitol Hill in Washington, DC.

If you're tired of waiting for others to change things, then sign this petition. After you sign the petition use EVERY avenue you have to get the word out. Use FaceBook, Newsvine, Email, Word-of-Mouth, but ACTIVELY promote this effort. It will not work unless people push for it from Main Street all the way to Washington, DC.

Truly... I'd about given up hope until I saw the massive protests in downtown Madison. We can take our country back. But WE have to push for it.

Newsvine can be something more than a place we come to vent our views... it can be the place where a movement to take back our Democracy started. Please consider signing and then ACTIVELY promoting this effort.

Thanks

  • 5 votes
#1.8 - Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:16 AM EDT
worldcurmudgeon

Jeff, it links up to Wisconsin, as well as Texas, Ohio and every other state where there is a Republican governor who wants to cut services to the public schools, elderly, health care/insurance, child protective services, etc. the list goes on.

The ruse is to cut these services because of the debt in the name of budget reductions, and in this country, with its trillion dollar economy, why would that be happening? Well, for the past several years in Texas there have been cuts in taxation to wealthy corporates, property tax cuts, and a refusal to properly reformulate public school funding. Texas school funding will be cut by $10 billion dollars. Imagine that amount, the impact will see tens of thousand of teachers and support personnel, including maintenance, out of work.

At the same time, this scenario has been played out in Wisconsin, Florida, and elsewhere. Many times this reduction in taxes, and reduction in collections is never publicized for the reason that people would be upset if the real truth came out. In Ohio the governor wants to sell public owned real estate and businesses to Wall Street investors, what comes next, the sales of public schools?

Wisconsin's governor has cut wealthy corporate taxes bo $130 million while saying to the public that there is a $150 million deficit in the state budget. This was used to cut public school funding, to increase insurance costs, and take benefits from state workers as well as destroy union representation.

  • 6 votes
#1.9 - Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:30 PM EDT
chelli

what comes next, the sales of public schools?

Sorry to say, that vouchers and NCLB was all (well, mostly) about that. If you've ever looked at the graphs of where scores are expected to be, by it, it has a very limited time for being sensible. If it stands, we have a few short years before our public schools will be outsourced to private tutors and companies that will come in and take over (I'm sure free of charge for the facility),that don't have to follow the same laws as our public schools. And of course, these companies are for profit and will decimate any union organizations of educators. It's only a matter of time. It's a class war right now. We all need to recognize that and use our one resource available--sheer, mass, numbers of voters and people.

  • 2 votes
#1.10 - Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:05 AM EDT
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SuckerFish

Scott has already started cutting into the system of protection for the elderly locked away in the care system. The facilities are wrought with reports of abuse and neglect. The United States has listed in every single state case after case of neglect, abuse, starvation, dehydration, bedsores, theft, sexual rapes on the elderly.

The facilities will keep the costs down, meaning the food is not nutritional, the staff is poorly paid and the facilities are infested with viruses and roaches. An LPN went into check on the elderly man in a facility in Fla. She turned on the light to see roaches crawling over the man's face.

The same facility did not pay the vevdor's bills. So, the grass was not trimmed. The food was of the lowest standards. The cleaning supplies were watered down. The maintenance supervisor was told to use his personal credit card to buy what supplies he needed and the company would reimburse him.

With cutbacks in funds and in sources protecting the seniors in facilities, they become victims rapantly. More seniors are now committing suicide than ever before in Florida because they are sick with fear of the thought of having to go into a facility.

  • 9 votes
Reply#2 - Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:07 AM EST
worldcurmudgeon

Scott will not stop until his corporate owners give him the signal that they are satiated with every benefit possible. This flies in the face of a healthy society, an American society of people with a vision for all, and a desire for transparency in government and civil matters.

  • 5 votes
#2.1 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:40 AM EST
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sushicat

It sounds like he is out to hurt the poor and middle and I am wondering , if people hate what is happening there so much how come there has not been a move to remove him from office?

Recall him. Kick him out, even if it takes a year let him know there are those in Fla that are not going to take it and then do something.

  • 11 votes
Reply#3 - Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:55 AM EST
worldcurmudgeon

Wisconsin has a law that an elected official cannot be impeached until after the first two years in office. By that time, he will have destroyed the middle class. The only way to get him is impeach the veteran republicans in the legislature and replace them with representatives of the people.

  • 6 votes
#3.1 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:42 AM EST
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SuckerFish

I can only hope that will be done.

  • 9 votes
Reply#4 - Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:18 AM EST
dwillie

Rick Scott is one more of many cases of "what in the hell were they thinking?". The company he founded and led engaged in massive Medicare fraud of the taxpayers. How could Florida voters not know that he would attempt to eviscerate all consumer and worker protections in favor of businesses like his? Rick Scott in the Governor's office is like putting Jack the Ripper on the campus of a women's college.

  • 16 votes
Reply#5 - Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:21 AM EST
RcR-2828649

His new Company Solantic tried to double bill myself and family telling us that we could later get a refund but wouldn't put that into writing. They even called about getting money from us as well as the insurance company. Scott is a very dangerous type of arrogant person. I hope to see a re-call effort.

He surely will not have the same tea baggers protecting him, many of them have fled the coup.

  • 3 votes
#5.1 - Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:30 PM EST
SuckerFish

I have witnessed double billing by podiatrists in three states, where I have resided. If, you are under Medicare, there is a number to call for this problem.

With all of the cuts now, I have no set agency to tell you to call. It will now be trial and error. Your insurance company should be able to assist you. (I am now waiting for a check to be ret'd to me, after I too found yet one more medical office expecting 10x's what I owed them).

Call the State Consumer Agency or the Dept. of Justice...there again, with cutbacks I am picking ideas out of the air. If, all else fails call your local TV consumer reporter. That gives them job security, when they get to help the consumers watching their station.

  • 7 votes
#5.2 - Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:48 PM EST
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SuckerFish

I have pulled another "all-nighter" since I read that article about him with the latest update of "what now for the destruction of a state, will the maniac, Scott dream up"? We face a critical point of total self-destruction in this country, due to the VOLUME of greed and hate.

Scott and his cronies from HCA/Columbia Hospitals should have gone to jail. Just like Madoff, these men plan the crimes and then follow through.

My "triggers" are abuse especially towards the children and the elderly. Two very vulnerable stages in our lives. I have no use for those people that feel such a superiority and have absolutely no regard for the survival of all human beings, at any cost.

  • 12 votes
Reply#6 - Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:35 AM EST
KFPH

Rick Scott was elected because of the overwhelming amount of stupid hyper-partisan people living in this now God-forsaken state.

The people in Florida who voted for this criminal are getting exactly what they deserve, and he's only been there for two months. I've asked people whom I know voted for this piece of trash, and the answer, much like those that voted for Bush is," well, who was I supposed to vote for?" I live in Florida, I can assure you, there were other people on the ticket.

These ignorant fools literally put a criminal in the governors mansion, rather than cross party lines.

He's already killed hi-speed train, and with that 1000's and 1000's of jobs. He's cut the state attorneys office, cut state workers pay, cut education budget, cut pension and life insurance benefits, cut corrections budgets, cut a pill-mill database that cost the taxpayers nothing, etc. etc. etc. again, I repeat-he's only been there two months.

Rick Scott has no agenda other than making more money. He became a billionaire stealing from the State of Florida, and will continue.

Thanks again Florida. Once again you have proven your stupidity. Good Job

  • 16 votes
Reply#7 - Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:51 AM EST
RcR-2828649

The tea party we see today is not the tea party that elected Scott, I know several adamant tea baagegrs that now have sided with labor. I say re-call the bastard.

  • 3 votes
#7.1 - Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:34 PM EST
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Maurice L. Lorge

 I was absolutely astounded that this skin-headed slim-ball was elected, that there were so many voters that cared so little about their government that they voted for a known felon. Please pray for us that didn't!!!

  • 10 votes
Reply#8 - Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:48 PM EST
Maurice L. Lorge

AND for those of you that didnt vote against him, SHAME SHAME SHAME ON YOU!!!

  • 7 votes
#8.1 - Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:59 PM EST
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SuckerFish

For whatever the legal rights are for the citizens of Florida, the time is now to push for a recall.

The sad reality in Florida is that the retirees vote along the same party-lines as by what they were raised. In this situation under the Republicans, the retirees have been the major target for theft. Where it looks legal, they believed they could trust.

Now, as they have been "taken" by the real estate markets in the "Villages", "Sun City Center" and the Hoffman-WCI properties, they lose all of their investment in houses that are kept down by artificially lower values than even the rest of the state.

Driving into these areas, one can see the HCA-Hospital links (ie South Bay-a Hoffman investment), the offices for "financial advisors" with high school educations, the "fake" doctors who write scripts for pain meds and the infamous nursing homes and ALF's owned by the Indians, the bankers from Bahrain & the mobsters connected with same.

The seniors in the state will leave this earth with nothing left for their children if that was their intent. Whether they be guided by that overwhelming trust factor of looooooong ago...or led by those infamous liars that tell them to "trust" them!

The workers, who lived by the edge-of-their teeth, will now find it more difficult to buy food, pay housing costs, repair their vehicles, seek medical care and be stressed about taking care of their children. The elderly will continue to seek solace in suicide, if they choose. The rich will eventually get a sense of either having to be cozy with the thieves or pack up and leave the mansions to the vultures waiting.

By abiding by the new "red-light" law as cars stop on-a-dime after the timers have been changed, each driver faces the possibility of being hit from behind by someone who could not afford to fix the brakes on that car/truck.

Florida has become the oasis for the mobsters in all areas: medical, banking, real estate, health care and senior care, as we see the Feds come after some of these criminals. But, not all go off to the "BIG" house, when they have enough money to be able to "walk".

Al Hoffman, the CEO of WCI Development took a trip to Portugal on the behalf of his personal friend, Bush, Jr. As WCI declared bankruptcy on the housing developments with the Chinese dry wall situations all over the state, Hoffman took his money and "retired". He became the ambassador to Portugal, thanks to Bush, Jr.

Al Hoffman at one time lived next door, to Jeb in Coral Gables, before Jeb headed to Tallahassee. Al Hoffman brought in the bucks to support both Bushes for Washington. Al Hoffman and Charles Brasington, of Naples now have a new corporation registered in the islands, just like Rick Scott and his group of investors.

Rick Scott and Tom Frist put their millions into the Chinese Health Care System...so, the money gets piled higher and higher and the demagoges continue to laugh with mirth as they fill up yet another barrel with stolen dreams of the victims.

Jeb Bush helped Tenet Health Care, while he was the governor by changing the laws in Florida as the FEDS and the SEC were charging Tenet with Medicare and Medicaid FRAUD. Now, Jeb is on the board of Tenet Health Care.

Floridians don't need to look for the gangs in the dark alleyways of Tampa, Miami, Orlando, Jacksonville, Bradenton, Daytona Beach...for the largest gangs in Florida are the politicians working for Scott, Bush and Hoffman!

  • 9 votes
Reply#9 - Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:14 PM EST
Maurice L. Lorge

One wonders about the astute business man Rick Scot hopes to recoup the 70 million he spent getting the Governors chair, I'm sure he has a plan, hang on to your wallets.

  • 3 votes
Reply#10 - Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:29 PM EST
SuckerFish

hmmmmmmmmmmm $78 million. The foolish ones like to believe that all wealthy people actually earned their wealth by hard work and good luck! All kings were not peasants first that just made more of an effort. A lot of heads were chopped-off just to be able to carry that crown. Same situation now, with a LOT of "peasants" being shot right in the backside as they get kicked out the doors.

  • 10 votes
Reply#11 - Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:40 PM EST
worldcurmudgeon

Rockefeller earned it by grabbing others land claims, and tobacco earned it by selling poison of which they knew all about, cars makers selling vehicles with faulty brakes, and investment bankers by crashing the housing markets. Yes, I would like to think these people made it rich the old fashion way with hard work and an honest ethic, however that is not the case.

  • 6 votes
#11.1 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:44 AM EST
SuckerFish

worldcurmudgeon, I think there has never been a time when "some one" was not abusing the less fortunate or the "workers/slaves". The Romans whipping slaves. The Egyptians bringing out their weapons of destruction upon the meek as they slaved for the lords-on-earth. The English forcing the farmers to "give" till they starved.

Through the ages, mankind yearned for equality in being able to claim their own hard labors for themselves with the due rewards being justified. What chance does mere man have against those with the weapons, the power, the vaults filled with gold in any century?

We still look the other way, when we see the KNOWN crooks vie again for our attention and votes. When, will mankind stop whimpering behind a tree and stand in front of the Elm and fight back? A vote is power, yet people do not recognize that they can be in control if they just move out of the shadows.

  • 3 votes
#11.2 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:56 AM EST
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BLOGER-486140

I think the minimum wage is a federal law. Does anyone know? Can a Federal Law be overturned by a state governor.

  • 2 votes
Reply#12 - Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:08 PM EST
LoneProgressive

States can set their own minimum wage, however, it cannot be lower than the federal minimum wage.

  • 6 votes
#12.1 - Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:54 PM EST
MoCowgirl-1193719

From the land of 'misery"......

http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2010/02/17/mo-senators-debate-lower-minimum-wage-teens/

Missouri lawmakers are considering lowering the state's minimum wage — but only for teenagers.

A Senate small-business committee debated legislation that would allow employers to pay 75 percent of the state minimum wage to workers younger than 20. The current minimum wage is $7.25 an hour, the lower wage would be about $5.43 an hour. Republican Sen. Tom Dempsey of St. Charles said his bill would spur the hiring of younger workers to help them get experience.

  • 2 votes
#12.2 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:02 PM EDT
SuckerFish

Voters need to start protesting. There is NO justice in making people POOR!

  • 3 votes
#12.3 - Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:06 AM EDT
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SuckerFish

I didn't think that a state could change it. Although, I do believe that not all states pay such a low rate as Florida does.

It seems that there are governors now that think they are running sovereign states and do not have anyone to answer to except their own "little" inner voices telling them "it is OKAY"!

  • 8 votes
Reply#13 - Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:14 PM EST
FlNutmegger

When considering that Florida has tremendous agriculture's such as strawberries, tomatoes, oranges, and the entire citrus lines, with our vast ferneries (sp?) all demanding stoop labor as well as being one of the biggest beef raising states, I would dare say that you would not have to go too far to find people exploitation here! It is as I understand it, too, but not sure, a right to work state where employees are not the highest commodity on employers minds, either.

  • 9 votes
#13.1 - Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:10 PM EST
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SuckerFish

As Rick Scott discourages patients getting assistance in the system, his company Solantic Urgent Health Care will welcome those patients. AGAIN, another money-deal for Rick Scott/aka/Richard L. Scott Investments.

Just like a "king", all that he sees is his new domain.

  • 4 votes
Reply#14 - Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:50 PM EST
G. H.

That seems to be the new fad. Nearly EVERY SINGLE one of the TP/Repub Governors think the state is their own new little kingdom. Somehow it HAS TO STOP! These *people?* are destroying the United States! I am 60 and never in my life have I seen such mass insanity. How did these people ever get the mindset that no-one and nothing else matters except them having everything? I am beginning to lose all hope.

  • 4 votes
#14.1 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:41 PM EDT
rescue dogs62

Why do you think they're all about state rights, and no federal intrusion i.e. gun laws, .....unless it's gay marriage, legalized marijuana, assisted suicide, then it's their right to mettle in another state....it just depends on the agenda.

  • 1 vote
#14.2 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:08 PM EDT
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LoneProgressive

This kind of thing is echoing across the nation: Wisconsin, Iowa, Ohio, Indiana, ... governors across the nation are all trying an "Anti-Robin Hood" approach: rob the poor, give to the rich. We all need to wake up from the American Dream (nightmare) and stop this before it is too late.

  • 9 votes
Reply#15 - Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:49 PM EST
58rose

and MICHIGAN TOO

  • 4 votes
#15.1 - Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:33 PM EDT
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SuckerFish

I get the sense that this seems to be pre-WWII in Germany, when the leaders went through the towns and ripped the people apart. When the victims stood back up after the atrocities that were commited against them, the rescuers finally said "sorry". The flood is rushing and these governors are jumping on the boats w/o even knowing where they are going...or who they are leaving behind in the waters.

The "few" that have started this sweep are indeed the very wealthy governors that have slipped in with the backing of their partners in destroying this country. Descent people don't try to destroy others....that they are supposed to be responsible for.

  • 5 votes
Reply#16 - Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:09 AM EST
Becks72

When one votes for an alleged crook they act surprised when his true nature shows. He got the elderly vote too bad they can't remember why they voted for him.

  • 5 votes
Reply#17 - Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:27 PM EST
FlNutmegger

He got the elderly vote too bad they can't remember why they voted for him.

Cheap shot! We are not all in the final throes of senility!

  • 6 votes
#17.1 - Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:41 PM EST
Ole CodgerDeleted
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Becks72

How else could he possibly get elected, on his record ?

  • 3 votes
Reply#18 - Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:49 PM EST
FlNutmegger

Nope! However having said that, he fast talked his way with most of the people not just the elderly and to selectively point out our failings does little for your overall arguments! Have followed your postings and agreed with most until this little disappointing goody! You can and do do better than this. Small thing but sensitive since it always seems easier to pot shot the seniors, eh? This too shall pass! Be well. :=))

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Reply#19 - Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:57 PM EST
Becks72

Being in my seventies and living in a retirement community which is 99% Republican from force of habit rather than the issues I feel qualified to make a generalization. Although most generalizations are false including possibly this one.

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Reply#20 - Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:16 PM EST
FlNutmegger

Point well taken and accepted considering your location! Being in my mid 80s and also in one of those communities I can appreciate what you are saying better now!

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#20.1 - Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:19 PM EST
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SuckerFish

FlNutmegger....the misconception is that Florida still has the harvest that you think of as being here. No more. When, the screams started about the "illegals" taking away those precious jobs of picking in the hot dirty fields under a boiling sun with a rag around one's head. most of them left.

The packing houses that used to clear those growing fields of the tomatoes and beans are now filled with roaches and ants with a locked fence in the front parking lots. The packing houses closed up and moved to Mexico for the cheap labor costs.

With the drug war going on in Mexico, now so intently I have no idea what the packers are doing now? The growing fields once again have signs on the corners advertising "for sale". The citrus trees died off 24 years ago with a strong freeze.

As the crops were moved further south and then off to So. America, the healthy orange groves are difficult to come across anymore. With trees that are left, they face diseases that kill them off. The beef market is difficult to pin point when in sight one can only see a "cow here and there, now.

A lot of the beef sold in Winn Dixie is imported from Australia, Mexico and So. America. The Florida market for agriculture was killed when the builders like WCI, Maronda, Heritage, Mercedes, Sunrise, K. Hovnanian, Rankin.. and the list continues as it is a lot longer, came to buy the farms at cheap prices.

Water shortages, red ants, sand hills, mosquitoes and sink holes adding to the hurricanes, we lost the ability to build a market for the economy of the state. Hence, the cheap labor lingered to cut the lawns, clean the pools, wash-off the roofs and serve the food. Big houses only eat up the funds for electric bills in the summertime.

Without good paying jobs, the only market that can carry the state then becomes the burden of the retiree with hopefully some pension money left, along with the tourists. If, you do not provide good paying jobs for workers, those that have the coins left will pay the bills.

Those big houses will remain empty until they can be sold for pennies on the dollar which again kills the market. The seniors are relying on taking their equity BACK-OUT of those houses and then moving into the horror chambers of the elder-care system. (Which is now going to be a lot worse under another Republican....as Bush started the procedure of degrading the system with the aid of Hoffman).

What is the answer? Realizing the concerns and acting upon them before it continues to the end of the road and there is no side-road to escape by.

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Reply#21 - Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:07 PM EST
RcR-2828649

Oh heck no, i was in the villages when all the "browns" were told to stand out front so when bush drove through to get his wads of cash from Morse he would see the importance of cheap mexican labor.

Remember bush telling us all that they were hear doing what we wouldn't do, like carpentry, concrete, roofing, road building.

i can name a certain infamous road builder that got away with flooding his employment books with cheap illegal labor right along with his sub contractors like curb builders that also knowingly flooded their employment books with illegals also.

I cant believe Morse has control over everything including roads and buildings that are being paid for by citizens.

All the contractors got rich as many illegals kept the prevalent wage far lower then it should have been, the working class Americans get scraps.

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#21.1 - Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:49 PM EST
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SuckerFish

To Becks72 & Flnutmegger, please be careful and make your decisions now while you can as to what you want for your care as you need it. Get a "buddy" to help you with those needs, whether it be family or a friend. Don't trust those in the "business" for it is their "business" to take from you any way that they can.

I took care of my Mother for the past nine years. What I have seen in the horrendous lack of care for human beings in the elder-care system now commits me to even a stronger fight against elder abuse and negligence.

What I see with Rick Scott putting his dirty fingers into the system in Florida which has never met the needs of the residents as it certainly SHOULD HAVE, makes me panic....beyond comprehension!

  • 6 votes
Reply#22 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:02 AM EST
Steve the Social Experiment

My mom is getting close to retirement age. Sadly, if she can, she will have to continue working until the day she drops dead. She has spent the last 17 years working for the same local business for the same local man. She aided him with her loyalty, dedication and ability to amass a respectable amount of wealth and with proper management a secure future for him and his children. She on the other hand has no pension, no 401k, nothing to look forward to, but social security. Her boss will most definitely benefit from Gov. Scotts' policies and she will see none of it. The day Florida voted "Right to Work" is the day Florida became one of the Corporate States of America. Recall Scott!

  • 6 votes
Reply#23 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:20 PM EST
SuckerFish

On one hand, having employment with one employer is unusual and lucky. On the other side, having employement with one employer and NOT having any benefits is the worst possible scenario. Employer loyalty and respect should certainly be given as much as it is expected from the employee to the employer.

Does NOT work anymore....long time ago, companies CARED. Bosses knew the employee's name and his family's names. They exchanged gifts for the holidays. There was a party for Christmas and the boss handed out bonus checks.

There is no loyalty from an employer as they always see an open door allowing them to exit from responsibility! They have no personal investment in employees and see them only as a profit or as a deficit.

Now, employees worry if they will be able to carry on with a position till retirement? Having a position with one company seems to be at 3-yr. intervals. If, companies need more profits, employees are fired "without cause"! Not right...not fair...and NO one cares. Not the state, not the Feds, not the stockholders or the CEO's.

Money is the motivator and for some companies that is all that they care about. I watched as workers were fired, when the profits were not as high as they should be one year. We were told to watch-out if certain employees came back to "visit"! These people worked hard. They lost their jobs, not because of poor work ethics, but because of profits.

The "old" man that owned the company was in the top ten-list for millionaires in the state. He had fallen backwards as he started doing some drugs, when he got depressed because of personal reasons. One of the supervisors became his favorite and evidently was his supplier. (I was so naive at the time, that I thought the old boy trusted the supervisor. I thought that is why the supervisor got to do so many special favors for the boss).

My boss, a VP told me that the managers and the owner figured out that they had made a huge mistake when they let those workers go at that time. Because the profit sharing plan was hit at the wrong time and they lost money.

So, here these people have no employment. They have to fight for unemployment wages and it was not their fault that they lost those jobs. I never trust anyone now in the business field. I trust myself and hope that my efforts will be considered worthwhile.

But, that is not always the truth....very few companies care about the employees. With laws that allow businesses to cut out employees without GOOD cause breaks down this society. We are not strong in this country because we are not all equal. We are not strong in this country, because in being in the market we see the haves and the have-nots clearly with two different perspectives.

Those that can control the way the market goes and hence the survival of this country either make the effort to make the economy work, or they take home "theirs" and put it in the safe. Not all business owners actually worked to get to their positions in the business world...."daddy" helped them out...left them money...or in many cases their dangerously crooked mind scammed some sucker and the money was easily taken.

For your Mother, maybe she can look at one of the side businesses of selling products. If, she has the contacts she can build the business with helpers and afford herself a way to make money for the future.

A friend of mine, just a few years away from retirement has always had some kind of a side-bs going for over 30 yrs. Home parties, school fairs, church bazaars...etc. She has a very good job with very good benefits and salary. Her years with the company have earned her a wonderful package.

Yet, the fear lingers that the pink slip could arrive before the "gold watch". No one would care..that is just the "way it is". But, she needs to have that security, so she works those weekends and puts in hours at night as needed.

Life is not fair...and there are no guarantees. At least your Mother has a son that cares about her...there are a lot of Mothers and Fathers that do NOT! In that way, your Mother is very blessed!~

  • 5 votes
Reply#24 - Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:55 AM EST
Janet Denison

If he could be elected after his medicaid problems then I suppose he will be able to do this too.

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